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		<title>By: Andy Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.sakeoftruth.com/2009/08/colored-hermeneutics/comment-page-1/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Context is Still King&quot;  

-I don&#039;t think that&#039;s right because Jesus is King!   :)

Interesting article and comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Context is Still King&#8221;  </p>
<p>-I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s right because Jesus is King!   <img src='http://www.sakeoftruth.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Interesting article and comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I find my &lt;em&gt;modus operandi&lt;/em&gt; in sorting through political matters patterning itself after my approach to biblical and theological issues. I want to do grammatical-historical exegesis on the constitution and accordingly apply it to contemporary issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I find my <em>modus operandi</em> in sorting through political matters patterning itself after my approach to biblical and theological issues. I want to do grammatical-historical exegesis on the constitution and accordingly apply it to contemporary issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Mann</title>
		<link>http://www.sakeoftruth.com/2009/08/colored-hermeneutics/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your observations, Steve. As for the main topic... I realize I bit off quite a lot for one post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your observations, Steve. As for the main topic&#8230; I realize I bit off quite a lot for one post!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great discussion here. i don&#039;t have much to contribute other than to say that these issue are ones i&#039;m thinking through right now as well. i&#039;m so far from the left it&#039;s insane, but i find the (political) right usually lacking what i&#039;m looking for.

mf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great discussion here. i don&#8217;t have much to contribute other than to say that these issue are ones i&#8217;m thinking through right now as well. i&#8217;m so far from the left it&#8217;s insane, but i find the (political) right usually lacking what i&#8217;m looking for.</p>
<p>mf</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Rives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Rives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is way off subject from what you wrote, but I want to jump in with an observation.

Namely,. because it is right-wing political advocates that oft get confused about the relationship of God to America (subtly assuming God to be pro-USA), I have found that the antidote is as oft presented as left wing politics.  That is, it is is easy to realize that God is not wearing Red, White and Blue.  But that does not mean that liberal, left-wing politics have been right all along and now we have just realized the error of our way. 

Right-wing political advocates can reject bringing God to their side of the debate, without accepting the Left-wing side of the debate.

I know liberal Christians who sincerely believe that once all of us right-wingers see how bad it is that fundamentalist preachers have gotten the best of us, then in our rage we&#039;ll all become leftist.  Indeed, when people wake up from fundamentalism (the modern right-wing God-n-Guns version), they do feel cheated and tricked.  But the answer is not to embrace a new left ideology, but to realize the error of brining God into our backwater fights.

The irony comes when those on the Left claim that they are the enlightened gurus who have been on Jesus&#039; side all along, and now we should all figure out that bleeding-heart policies were the correct ones all along.  And being the defeated ex-fundamentalists, we can swoon over the brilliance of our compassionate and enlightened non-right-wing friends.  And the irony is that they have brought God right back into the mix, this time making him into their image.

Once we realize that we have made God in our own image (a Pro-American right-wing conservative), the solution is not to leave that idolatry for another version!  Our right wing conservative politics may be better for the country, and we can keep that and give up the idolatry.   This is not an either-or proposition.  The left side must not be understood as having figured out that God was really on their side all along.  For to do that, is to trade one form of idolatry for another, or to keep the bad parts of fundamentalism while only trading out the policy side.

Steve
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mrrives.com/Technology/?p=195&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Along these lines, check out my two posts on Marxism&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is way off subject from what you wrote, but I want to jump in with an observation.</p>
<p>Namely,. because it is right-wing political advocates that oft get confused about the relationship of God to America (subtly assuming God to be pro-USA), I have found that the antidote is as oft presented as left wing politics.  That is, it is is easy to realize that God is not wearing Red, White and Blue.  But that does not mean that liberal, left-wing politics have been right all along and now we have just realized the error of our way. </p>
<p>Right-wing political advocates can reject bringing God to their side of the debate, without accepting the Left-wing side of the debate.</p>
<p>I know liberal Christians who sincerely believe that once all of us right-wingers see how bad it is that fundamentalist preachers have gotten the best of us, then in our rage we&#8217;ll all become leftist.  Indeed, when people wake up from fundamentalism (the modern right-wing God-n-Guns version), they do feel cheated and tricked.  But the answer is not to embrace a new left ideology, but to realize the error of brining God into our backwater fights.</p>
<p>The irony comes when those on the Left claim that they are the enlightened gurus who have been on Jesus&#8217; side all along, and now we should all figure out that bleeding-heart policies were the correct ones all along.  And being the defeated ex-fundamentalists, we can swoon over the brilliance of our compassionate and enlightened non-right-wing friends.  And the irony is that they have brought God right back into the mix, this time making him into their image.</p>
<p>Once we realize that we have made God in our own image (a Pro-American right-wing conservative), the solution is not to leave that idolatry for another version!  Our right wing conservative politics may be better for the country, and we can keep that and give up the idolatry.   This is not an either-or proposition.  The left side must not be understood as having figured out that God was really on their side all along.  For to do that, is to trade one form of idolatry for another, or to keep the bad parts of fundamentalism while only trading out the policy side.</p>
<p>Steve<br />
<a href="http://www.mrrives.com/Technology/?p=195" rel="nofollow">Along these lines, check out my two posts on Marxism</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, very important points. Thanks. There certainly is a &#039;pop&#039; view of Jesus floating around that tends to ignore various passages. 

In Luke 22:36, I&#039;m not sure what exactly Jesus was commanding. Certainly He meant to say, &quot;Be prepared. I&#039;m leaving.&quot; But when the disciples take inventory of swords, Jesus says, &quot;It is enough.&quot; Obviously what this phrase means is vital. Then Jesus later rebukes Peter for his use of the sword (Luke 22:49-51). Seeing the example of the apostles&#039; endurance of insults and assaults in the book of Acts also makes me wonder how they understood the command after Peter&#039;s rebuke and after Jesus&#039; further commission-teaching post-resurrection. In any case, you&#039;re right: we have to grapple with these verses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, very important points. Thanks. There certainly is a &#8216;pop&#8217; view of Jesus floating around that tends to ignore various passages. </p>
<p>In Luke 22:36, I&#8217;m not sure what exactly Jesus was commanding. Certainly He meant to say, &#8220;Be prepared. I&#8217;m leaving.&#8221; But when the disciples take inventory of swords, Jesus says, &#8220;It is enough.&#8221; Obviously what this phrase means is vital. Then Jesus later rebukes Peter for his use of the sword (Luke 22:49-51). Seeing the example of the apostles&#8217; endurance of insults and assaults in the book of Acts also makes me wonder how they understood the command after Peter&#8217;s rebuke and after Jesus&#8217; further commission-teaching post-resurrection. In any case, you&#8217;re right: we have to grapple with these verses!</p>
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		<title>By: On Red, White, and Blue Hermeneutics &#171; Participatory Bible Study Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Red, White, and Blue Hermeneutics &#171; Participatory Bible Study Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 12:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Red, White, and Blue Hermeneutics Some good advice on for the Sake of Truth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Red, White, and Blue Hermeneutics Some good advice on for the Sake of Truth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Mark Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Mark Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People never read the good bits in the NT.  Jesus didn&#039;t come for peace and in fact knew he&#039;d cause some war/fighting, He intended it (Mat. 10:34).  Not only that, if you have valuables, Jesus thinks it&#039;s a good idea to be armed (Lk. 22:36).  On top of this, Jesus affirms the gov&#039;t&#039;s right and even responsability to kill and make war (Rom. 13:4).  Big difference between how an individual can act to advance the cause of the gospel and what a gov&#039;t should do - e.g. protect freedom.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People never read the good bits in the NT.  Jesus didn&#8217;t come for peace and in fact knew he&#8217;d cause some war/fighting, He intended it (Mat. 10:34).  Not only that, if you have valuables, Jesus thinks it&#8217;s a good idea to be armed (Lk. 22:36).  On top of this, Jesus affirms the gov&#8217;t's right and even responsability to kill and make war (Rom. 13:4).  Big difference between how an individual can act to advance the cause of the gospel and what a gov&#8217;t should do &#8211; e.g. protect freedom.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Is America a Christian Nation? Or, how would it look if it was? &#124; The Church of Jesus Christ</title>
		<link>http://www.sakeoftruth.com/2009/08/colored-hermeneutics/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Is America a Christian Nation? Or, how would it look if it was? &#124; The Church of Jesus Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has pointed us to a post by Cynthia Boaz at the Huffington Post. I think anyone who has read my blog long enough [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scripture Zealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scripture Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply Josh. I don&#039;t know if I will write about these matters but I look forward to reading anything that you might write.
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Josh. I don&#8217;t know if I will write about these matters but I look forward to reading anything that you might write.<br />
Jeff</p>
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